At 8/5/24 05:32 PM, TheMusicalManiac wrote:

At 8/5/24 05:22 PM, NoobClock666 wrote:Kirby games, because those games are for fucking pussys. You can just fly all over the enemies like a cunt. Also Lego games. They are all the same gameplay and it's boring as hell. There's no game over. NO SKILL!

Also, when I hear you say you hate Sonic Frontiers, all I hear is you hate 3d Sonic games. Okay. I'm not a Sonic fan BTW.

Check your fucking ears and eyes mate - I do not dislike all 3D Sonic games. I was merely pointing out the reasons why I didn't prefer Sonic Frontiers in general.

In fact, in another thread, I had mentioned my love for Sonic Forces. To back up my claim for 3D love, I also am a huge fan of Sonic Colors and grew up with those games. I also enjoyed the multiplayer of Shadow the Hedgehog and also hold a soft spot for Sonic 3D Blast for the Sonic Classic Collection. I have limited experience with Adventures 1 and 2, but enjoyed the chao garden. You can also count the mobile games as 3D as well since its front facing Sonic, Sonic Dash and Sonic Forces Speed Battle are very fun on a boring day.

I mean no offense, but you may want to reread my comments. I merely was agreeing with some of the other points others were trying to make about the flaws of the 3D games. Assuming I dislike the entire genre of Sonic's 3D category all because "I dIdN'T LiKe FrOnTiErS" is wrong and just incorrect.

You'd better be joking about that Kirby bit and the other games - I directly said BE CIVIL. NO BULLYING OR TOXICITY ALLOWED. READ THE RULES.

At 8/3/24 02:44 PM, TheMusicalManiac wrote:

At 8/3/24 12:29 PM, aapiarts wrote:I could name a bunch but I'll name only one for now.

Deltarune. I beat both free chapters and don't see myself going out of my way to buy the future parts. The game doesn't do anything wrong nor is it bad. It's just ok at best to me. It feels highly overrated because the gameplay of it is mostly a walking simulator when not doing the better part of the game aka battles. The story while nice it was forgetable. The battles are easily the most fun part of it.

Call me Scott The Woz because I'm not an RPG guy.

I like Deltarune and Undertale for the stories, but if you're not a story person, it really doesn't jive. If you're not emotionally connected to a video game, it just feels boring and a waste of time. I can see that. I will say the reason why I dislike both games is due to the fanbase and not the game itself. I think that's enough of a reason as well.

At 8/7/24 01:37 PM, Toxic-Tin-Can wrote:

At 8/3/24 02:44 PM, TheMusicalManiac wrote:

At 8/3/24 12:29 PM, aapiarts wrote:I could name a bunch but I'll name only one for now.

Deltarune. I beat both free chapters and don't see myself going out of my way to buy the future parts. The game doesn't do anything wrong nor is it bad. It's just ok at best to me. It feels highly overrated because the gameplay of it is mostly a walking simulator when not doing the better part of the game aka battles. The story while nice it was forgetable. The battles are easily the most fun part of it.

Call me Scott The Woz because I'm not an RPG guy.

I like Deltarune and Undertale for the stories, but if you're not a story person, it really doesn't jive. If you're not emotionally connected to a video game, it just feels boring and a waste of time. I can see that. I will say the reason why I dislike both games is due to the fanbase and not the game itself. I think that's enough of a reason as well.

Imo, while the stories are a big focus, Undertale's characters felt less like people and more like plot points. Deltarune as a whole improves on everything Undertale did, but frankly I enjoy both games when I'm on the most fucked up paths lol. It's kind of akin to playing with toys and making a story out of that.

The work Toby has done is definitely worth admiring, and I've definitely had fun, it's not nearly as amazing as a basic Google search might make it out to be.

(Had a guest speaker compare me to Flowey once because I admitted how little of an impact Undertale's story had on me lmao.)

At 8/5/24 05:48 PM, TheMusicalManiac wrote:

At 8/5/24 05:47 PM, SoapBoxSophie wrote:

At 8/5/24 05:44 PM, TheMusicalManiac wrote:

At 8/5/24 05:02 PM, SoapBoxSophie wrote:The coffin of Andy and Leley I say this because this game has a fanbase believe it or not.

Isn't that game full of incest or some gross shit. That's all I've heard about it

It has incest yes.

proceeds to gag

That's trash, enough said....

At 8/7/24 09:25 AM, BoyWithHyperdontia wrote:Oh god...

Super Mario Bros. Wonder

This isn't because I think the game is necessarily bad, and I even considered buying it sometime after its launch day. However, as I decided to look into a playthrough for a bit to see how the game was, I eventually realized that the bosses...were essentially just the first boss but slightly different. It also didn't help that there's only four bosses (except the final boss) instead of the usual eight. What made it even more disappointing was that I noticed the trailers hardly revealed anything about the bosses, so I thought they were keeping it a secret to surprise players.

At 8/8/24 03:47 PM, Drazah wrote:

At 8/7/24 09:25 AM, BoyWithHyperdontia wrote:Oh god...

Super Mario Bros. Wonder

This isn't because I think the game is necessarily bad, and I even considered buying it sometime after its launch day. However, as I decided to look into a playthrough for a bit to see how the game was, I eventually realized that the bosses...were essentially just the first boss but slightly different. It also didn't help that there's only four bosses (except the final boss) instead of the usual eight. What made it even more disappointing was that I noticed the trailers hardly revealed anything about the bosses, so I thought they were keeping it a secret to surprise players.

I don't think you should hold back on buying the game all because of all four garbage bosses in a lengthy game.

But it is infuriating that they took a left turn at the whole: "the 2D Mario games are stale" people endlessly said with the New Soup games, and added the whole wacky thing Wonder has going on, but yet never took any of the fucking criticisms to heart about the godawful bosses, that literally ALL the 2D Mario games have.

New Soup DS is the exception, the only 2D Mario that actually had unique bosses outside of the lame Bowser Jr fights.

I am fucking sick of the bosses being pure trash or reskins/refights in 2D Mario. (and 3D Land/World).

At 8/2/24 07:42 PM, TheMusicalManiac wrote:Got inspired by another recent thread. Credit to @Brewzman for their thread. This may have been done already but fuck it. What's a game you personally despise that everyone else seems to like? Doesn't have to be despise actually, it can be dislike, find neutral, not have as much hope/admiration for, etc.

For me, it was unfortunately with Sonic Frontiers. Now before you gasp at me. It is not a bad game. Not at all! I love the free open world and the soundtrack and story a lot. Its moreso my preference for 2D and 3D linear stages rather than open world stuff. I also find that the guides for how to attack and use the powers you're given unnecessarily complicated, even with the practice mode. Perhaps I'm big dumb, but that's just my preference...I do like games with free open world styles, but stuff that is moreso easy to grasp and understand and with simpler controls. Like Monster Hunter Rise and Pokémon Sword/Violet/Legends Arceus. You get what I mean?

For the record, I am not talking about bad games in this thread - just ones you don't prefer and what makes you not like it. Be civil, people!!!

I'd love to see what you think.

At 8/4/24 11:46 PM, Sockth wrote:Maybe I'm just not a shooter person or I can't aim, but I just can't get into Valorant. I've played with friends, and I've never enjoyed it. It's honestly probably a skill issue; however, I'm not great at TF2 either and I still enjoy it.

I'll put Yume Nikki as an honorable mention, because I did enjoy it when a friend and I figured it out together. I know it's a foundation of what makes RPGs what they are, but walking around giant rooms and desperately trying to interact with something got overwhelming and frustrating really quick. I think I might be salty, though, because I got the ending spoiled a day before I finished it by a STORY OF UNDERTALE VIDEO

At 8/10/24 03:37 AM, Codes5 wrote:

At 8/2/24 07:42 PM, TheMusicalManiac wrote:Got inspired by another recent thread. Credit to @Brewzman for their thread. This may have been done already but fuck it. What's a game you personally despise that everyone else seems to like? Doesn't have to be despise actually, it can be dislike, find neutral, not have as much hope/admiration for, etc.

For me, it was unfortunately with Sonic Frontiers. Now before you gasp at me. It is not a bad game. Not at all! I love the free open world and the soundtrack and story a lot. Its moreso my preference for 2D and 3D linear stages rather than open world stuff. I also find that the guides for how to attack and use the powers you're given unnecessarily complicated, even with the practice mode. Perhaps I'm big dumb, but that's just my preference...I do like games with free open world styles, but stuff that is moreso easy to grasp and understand and with simpler controls. Like Monster Hunter Rise and Pokémon Sword/Violet/Legends Arceus. You get what I mean?

For the record, I am not talking about bad games in this thread - just ones you don't prefer and what makes you not like it. Be civil, people!!!

I'd love to see what you think.

Gotta be Hollow Knight, was just such an OK game I think it's one of the most overhyped games from the past two decades, there are so many other games (much older games too might I add) that do much more than HK but people just fuckin love this specific game where they put it museums and all that jazz and if you disagree with the hype or dare I say not like it, they will essentially slit your throat and go crazy because you had a different opinion for a game that's mid in the first place.

At 8/10/24 12:44 PM, TheMusicalManiac wrote:

At 8/10/24 03:37 AM, Codes5 wrote:

At 8/2/24 07:42 PM, TheMusicalManiac wrote:Got inspired by another recent thread. Credit to @Brewzman for their thread. This may have been done already but fuck it. What's a game you personally despise that everyone else seems to like? Doesn't have to be despise actually, it can be dislike, find neutral, not have as much hope/admiration for, etc.

For me, it was unfortunately with Sonic Frontiers. Now before you gasp at me. It is not a bad game. Not at all! I love the free open world and the soundtrack and story a lot. Its moreso my preference for 2D and 3D linear stages rather than open world stuff. I also find that the guides for how to attack and use the powers you're given unnecessarily complicated, even with the practice mode. Perhaps I'm big dumb, but that's just my preference...I do like games with free open world styles, but stuff that is moreso easy to grasp and understand and with simpler controls. Like Monster Hunter Rise and Pokémon Sword/Violet/Legends Arceus. You get what I mean?

For the record, I am not talking about bad games in this thread - just ones you don't prefer and what makes you not like it. Be civil, people!!!

I'd love to see what you think.

Gotta be Hollow Knight, was just such an OK game I think it's one of the most overhyped games from the past two decades, there are so many other games (much older games too might I add) that do much more than HK but people just fuckin love this specific game where they put it museums and all that jazz and if you disagree with the hype or dare I say not like it, they will essentially slit your throat and go crazy because you had a different opinion for a game that's mid in the first place.

I can agree with this. I had major difficulties with HK and my god....I must be a bad gamer but I hated HK and would happily pass. I also struggled on Cuphead but that one has a cool ass soundtrack and was hand drawn so that gets a pass.

At 8/4/24 03:55 PM, Dungeonation wrote:

At 8/4/24 03:32 PM, Chdonga wrote:

At 8/4/24 01:11 PM, TheMusicalManiac wrote:

At 8/4/24 01:06 PM, Chdonga wrote:Pokemon Mystery Dungeon.

PMD

Explorers of Sky

Honestly I feel like the majority of PMD fans (such as myself) aren’t in it for the gameplay loop.

At 8/5/24 03:45 PM, orangebomb wrote:Danganronpa, and I don't (completely) hate it because it's a VN, I hate it because of what it represents itself as, namely being a rip-off of Battle Royale, Ace Attorney and even Lord of the Flies. (It also doesn't help that you have to be a Johnie Cochran level of lawyering in-game or your ass is done)

Worse yet, the characters are basically stock anime archtype characters who are about as one-note as you can get (with maybe one or two exceptions) and worldbuilding is basically a lot of telling and very little showing, and even when they do just that, it becomes clumsy and preposterous.

At best, DR is the Demon Slayer of video games, all style and little substance, and in a way, that's an insult to Demon Slayer.

At 8/10/24 11:21 PM, saltenspyke wrote:This mostly has to do with just story, since I, as an individual player, do not really give a shit about gameplay if the story is kinda fire. (unless it’s absolutely terrible/100% grinding)

Persona 5. I actually used to really like Persona 5. As a kid. I respect some of the story’s writing… but not a lot. In fact I hate most of it. I’ll just get to the point and say the thing I hate the most— the way the game handles pedophilia. The first fucking boss you handle in the game is a gross pedophilic PE teacher. He gets what’s coming to him… but then the game turns around and makes your homeroom teacher dateable and she is never held accountable. Oh and she dresses up as a maid for you too outside of school because she works as one too.
Oh, and the MC’s a High schooler. So yeah. Student and teacher. A young adult and an adult whose handled a lot of young adults in the past.
I see this as the game’s way of (weakly) shifting the power dynamics (YOU’RE ordering HER around… so surely there’s nothing wrong here.) but uh. The power dynamic still exists imo. Both the MC and the homeroom teacher acknowledge this when the teacher dresses up as a maid in front of the MC for the first time and recognizes him.
Even though… from what I remember (I really don’t want to look back at any gaming videos… sorry) nothing terrible happens in comparison to the PE teacher. But it’s disgusting this was even concepted—
A lot of people say this was ATLUS’s way of appealing to older generations— but man, did it have to be pedophilic?
Pedophilia is pedophilia, regardless if the victim was unharmed or not.
This is kind of a messy rant… But I really don’t like a lot of the writing decisions in Persona 5. Pedophilia is a serious issue… unless it’s the hot maid teacher, and the student is clearly consenting because the player is…
Once again, I’m sorry if this is a bit of a messy rant. I have zero respect for pedophiles regardless if they’re fictional or not.

At 8/11/24 06:01 AM, 5ERGEI wrote:Hollow Knight.

Its been a while since I've played and I can't even remember most of the reasons why I disliked the game.

First off... the cutesy little cartoon bug aesthetic does nothing for me.
I only got the game because soooo many people swore it was so great.... and imho it did not deliver.

At its core... Hollow Knight is an okay metroidvania... but not a good one. The game progresses far too linearly despite hardcore fanboys claiming there are many ways to progress... (I really don't think that's the case after looking at the routing) The upgrades are all "keys" in the sense that they do not really provide utility you add to your arsenal as much as they simply allow you to open "locked" paths. Like... "oh I need this upgrade to get through this thing blocking the path"... Not... "let me use my upgrades to navigate through this room in a clever way" or "maybe I can use a combination of these upgrades/tools to get to that place up there."

The biggest upgrade letdowns were the one that allows you to swim in acid (which was teased for like forever... and only used in a total of like 3 places) and the crystal dash (or whatever its called) which absolutely pales in comparison to something like say... the Super Metroid Shinespark, and was also super situational (borderline pointless outside of crossing the large gaps made specifically for the dash). Also, not having certain abilities from the start (like walljump, double jump, or the iframe dodge (which you get so late in the game) was a poor developer choice. It felt like they intentionally tied a hand behind your back and later when they untied it, expected people to think of it as an upgrade.
"Yay I can do something I should have been able to do since the beginning of the game! how exciting"

...anyway...

The biggest letdown for me was that the game was an amalgamation of several different games some which I genuinely hated... (like Cuphead or Meatboy.)

Many boss encounters, particularly their alternate and more powerful forms (I forget what they are called) seem as if they were initially too easy, so the devs added an excessive amount of random projectiles everywhere in the boss room to create some artificial difficulty. There was also this "flukem___" (i cant remember the name) hidden boss that was literally nothing but projectiles (that were all capable of taking more damage from your weapon than everything else in the game you had encountered up until that point).

The DLC boss of the troupe was some bullet hell cancer (ripped straight out of cuphead), which was absolutely not my cup of tea.

The path of pain or whatever it was called was just some shit-tier Meatboy wannabe addition to the game. Very unwelcome.

...and overall I feel like if they just made a really solid metroidvania instead of trying to incorporate things from other games (like dark souls... which I love as a franchise, btw), the game would have actually been good instead of just mid.

Its bland... and soyboys don't stfu about the game... making me hate the fanbase, too.

At 8/11/24 12:29 AM, TheMusicalManiac wrote:

At 8/10/24 11:21 PM, saltenspyke wrote:This mostly has to do with just story, since I, as an individual player, do not really give a shit about gameplay if the story is kinda fire. (unless it’s absolutely terrible/100% grinding)

Persona 5. I actually used to really like Persona 5. As a kid. I respect some of the story’s writing… but not a lot. In fact I hate most of it. I’ll just get to the point and say the thing I hate the most— the way the game handles pedophilia. The first fucking boss you handle in the game is a gross pedophilic PE teacher. He gets what’s coming to him… but then the game turns around and makes your homeroom teacher dateable and she is never held accountable. Oh and she dresses up as a maid for you too outside of school because she works as one too.
Oh, and the MC’s a High schooler. So yeah. Student and teacher. A young adult and an adult whose handled a lot of young adults in the past.
I see this as the game’s way of (weakly) shifting the power dynamics (YOU’RE ordering HER around… so surely there’s nothing wrong here.) but uh. The power dynamic still exists imo. Both the MC and the homeroom teacher acknowledge this when the teacher dresses up as a maid in front of the MC for the first time and recognizes him.
Even though… from what I remember (I really don’t want to look back at any gaming videos… sorry) nothing terrible happens in comparison to the PE teacher. But it’s disgusting this was even concepted—
A lot of people say this was ATLUS’s way of appealing to older generations— but man, did it have to be pedophilic?
Pedophilia is pedophilia, regardless if the victim was unharmed or not.
This is kind of a messy rant… But I really don’t like a lot of the writing decisions in Persona 5. Pedophilia is a serious issue… unless it’s the hot maid teacher, and the student is clearly consenting because the player is…
Once again, I’m sorry if this is a bit of a messy rant. I have zero respect for pedophiles regardless if they’re fictional or not.

I agree as well. I actually hated that the teacher was datable, hence why I avoided all of that. I did appreciate the hatred on that perv of a teacher, he deserved way more than jail for the shit he did and the boss felt so fantastic and very well done. The way it was written, how it was an open secret, until the Thieves came in to come save the day and stand up for what's right, it felt good. The punishment felt justified. On another note, I also think the way Yusuke was written could have been better. Obviously his level up arc goes in that his mentor and teacher wasn't a perfect person but was a good artist and did in fact teach Yusuke his fantastic skills in art. HOWEVER. At that point the game completely forgets that....HE LITERALLY ABUSED HIS PUPILS??? AND SILENCED THEM??? Yusuke's got every right to be upset, and getting a "forgive and forget" kinda ending was not deserved. Obviously I get moving on from trauma is important in the healing process, but a victim should never need to forgive and forget their abuser or what they've done; instead recommended in using that energy to inform and warn people, and help others in their position and in need, but for the most part, using that energy to HEAL. You know, like they should. I do appreciate that Yusuke does stand by his morals, refusing to make money off the craft, even if it makes him penniless, but Joker and co should have done better in helping him out, because that poor man needs to eat god dAMN.

Yusuke is my favorite P5 character alongside Joker and I am a huge fan of the game - but your concerns are absolutely valid, and very well written might I add. It's an unfortunate staple in JP media...I find similar tropes in Dragon Ball and Naruto, so yes, I know exactly how you feel...it's a damn shame too because you want to enjoy it more than you already are, but that would mean being unrealistic, and knowing how some things don't age very well...it's hard to separate that one "gag" (putting it in quotes because for a "gag" it's not very funny) from the whole piece as a whole. It's definitely possible - I've done it many times, reminding myself each time that this is not how people should act in the real world, and becoming aware that it was done in poor taste... (Specifically the way Bulma and Sakura are written...sigh....god dammit...) But that in itself doesn't ruin it for me unless that "gag" is the whole game, which is an entirely different story completely. Which um...yeah. There are quite a few bad examples for that...